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A Candid Conversation on Race, Privilege & Progress w/ Author Mark Winkler
by The Evolved Caveman Podcast w/ Dr. John Schinnerer
44m 10s
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June 10, 2020
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A Candid Conversation on Race, Privilege & Progress — with Author Mark Winkler

Let’s be honest — talking about racism, white privilege, and bias can be uncomfortable as hell. But you know what’s worse? Staying silent.

In this powerful episode, I sit down with African-American author and activist Mark Winkler to have the kind of raw, honest conversation more of us need to be having. We dig into how racism and privilege show up (in obvious and not-so-obvious ways), what unconscious bias really looks like, and how white folks — especially those who consider themselves allies — can stop just talking and start showing up.

This episode is an open hand, not a pointed finger. It's a call-in, not a call-out. It’s an invitation for white listeners to come alongside Black communities and other people of color — to learn, to listen, and to take meaningful steps toward racial equity.

Look, if you’re white and committed to anti-racism, now’s the time to step up — even (especially) if it’s uncomfortable. That means having the tough conversations, challenging misinformation, and pushing back against the narratives of fear and division. Change doesn’t happen in silence.

So listen in. Then act.

**Below are some kickass resources to help you get educated and get moving.**

**🔥 Must-Read Articles:**
- *Ella Baker and the Black Freedom Movement*
- *My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant* – Jose Antonio Vargas
- *The 1619 Project* – NYT
- *The Combahee River Collective Statement*
- *The Intersectionality Wars* – Jane Coaston, Vox
- *White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack* – Peggy McIntosh
- *Who Gets to Be Afraid in America?* – Ibram X. Kendi

**🎧 Podcasts to Plug Into:**
- *1619* (NYT)
- *About Race*
- *Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast*
- *Pod For The Cause*
- *Seeing White*

**This conversation isn’t the end — it’s the beginning. Let’s keep the momentum going.**

Ready to evolve? Then hit play. Let’s do the work — together.

If you like what you've heard, support us by subscribing, leaving reviews on Apple podcasts. Every review helps to get the message out! Please share the podcast with friends and colleagues.

Wanna Go Deeper Down the Rabbit Hole? Here’s Where to Stalk Us (Respectfully):

👔 For Dr. John’s work helping execs and high performers stop silently imploding: 
👉 [GuideToSelf.com](https://GuideToSelf.com)

💔 Curious about the couples counseling magic John’s doing with the amazing Joree Rose, LMFT
👉 [LoveIsntEnough.net](https://LoveIsntEnough.net)  
(*Spoiler: Love isn’t enough, but skills, self-awareness, and maybe a glass of wine are.*)

🎙️ For all things caveman evolution, podcast-style: 
👉 [TheEvolvedCaveman.com](https://TheEvolvedCaveman.com)

💃 For Joree’s powerhouse work helping women ditch burnout, find joy, and stop dating emotionally unavailable man-children: 
👉 [JoreeRose.com](https://JoreeRose.com)

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📸 **Instagram:** [@TheEvolvedCaveman](http://instagram.com/@TheEvolvedCaveman)  
👥 **Facebook:** [Anger.Management.Expert](http://facebook.com/Anger.Management.Expert)  
🐦 **Twitter/X:** [@JohnSchin](http://x.com/JohnSchin)  
💼 **LinkedIn:** [Dr. John Schinnerer](http://linkedin.com/in/DrJohnSchinnerer)

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Follow, click, explore, evolve. Or don’t. But your emotional health might suffer and your relationships could end in flames. No pressure. 🔥

#mensmentalhealth #endracism #socialactivism #blacklivematter #equalityforall

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