After working vocationally as a pastor for about 8 years, my wife and I left the conventional church to start a house church. I now earn a living working for Charles Schwab in Phoenix. I also do some work with a nonprofit called Organic Church Resource. Our goal is to be a resource to people interested in pursuing organic church. Hopefully this podcast serves that purpose. I've been married since 1997 and I have a daughter who is 3 1/2 and son who is 1.